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« Reply #45 pada: June 01, 2011, 11:14:54 PM »

Just processed this. Taken with same camera but thru a 24mm F/2.8 (nikon)lens grin.

Hope can be used to find certain positions of known objects. Sort of like mapping. shocked


I think not just the scope, also the weather while u were imaging. Complement goes to the scope if u insist. cheesy

Can we not try this same exercise sometime clear in KL but with a CLS filter and see the difference? Maybe a session together?

Ahem ...there is an old saying:" It is not the camera and lense that take great pictures but the man behind it" . grin

Don't know your way around the sky?

Ask Shahgazer or universe 24 or send your pictures to Astrometry.net .

Ahem what is the Sky Brightness Index for KL. According to him it may work

Good idea to try using LPS, CLS etc in  KL area but preferably on a cloudless night. You organise lah at Sungai Lang where the Bortle Dark-Sky Scale  is 4. evil




for your reference Pantai Mek Mas the Bortle scale is 3  and Punggai is also 3.

I have yet to find a place where the scale is 1  cry

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« Reply #46 pada: June 02, 2011, 07:44:30 AM »

We can start planning a trip to Banting sometime after the wedding season has subside (or will it)?  huh

Getting access is quite easy since it is pretty much empty most of the time anyways. Maybe we can decide on a date and a small starparty @ Banting for amateurs can begin! afro

Unless we want to be closer to home and in a much more polluted sky (for testing purposes only), in the safe compound of the Planetarium. This way we can 'attack' whenever the sky clears. But I guess this might apply for those who doesn't have their own observatory... grin grin grin

p/s: I thought this small amateur starparty will only start next year... I guess we're ahead of schedule.  shocked
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« Reply #47 pada: June 06, 2011, 04:28:20 PM »

This way we can 'attack' whenever the sky clears. But I guess this might apply for those who doesn't have their own observatory... grin grin grin

p/s: I thought this small amateur starparty will only start next year... I guess we're ahead of schedule.  shocked

ehemm... sejak 2 menjak ni, pesal aku terasa kena tembak je... kiri kanan atas bawah.. terasa beb!  kena runtuh balik la gamaknye.. baru aman damai  tongue

anyway, cadangan buat Banting Star Party 1-3 July? 2 malam observation.

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« Reply #48 pada: June 06, 2011, 05:37:13 PM »

Sebelum kita all out, nak tanya dulu sesiapa yang FREE utk join Starparty kat Banting for those dates.

From there we can see what is needed and what suits best. Contohnya kalau ramai, mungkin kne buat properly siap dgn mkn minum dan aktiviti siang n malam yang sedikit teratur.

If 3-4 orang sahaja, then we all know what to do la...  This one even easier to do. Just need some heads up, preferably 2 weeks prior or sooner. shocked wink afro

I also want to take this opportunity to share a better shot of the Scorpio's tail, stacked lower ISO of 800 and less high cirrus clouds. grin grin grin



mungkin ramai yang dah jemu tgk, tapi lepas ni kita kongsi gambar startrails pula ekk... Tungguuuu... rolleyes rolleyes rolleyes

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« Reply #49 pada: June 06, 2011, 10:54:31 PM »

This way we can 'attack' whenever the sky clears. But I guess this might apply for those who doesn't have their own observatory... grin grin grin

p/s: I thought this small amateur starparty will only start next year... I guess we're ahead of schedule.  shocked

ehemm... sejak 2 menjak ni, pesal aku terasa kena tembak je... kiri kanan atas bawah.. terasa beb!  kena runtuh balik la gamaknye.. baru aman damai  tongue

anyway, cadangan buat Banting Star Party 1-3 July? 2 malam observation.



Starparty ni untuk visual observation or astrophotography??
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« Reply #50 pada: June 06, 2011, 11:32:22 PM »

Apa2 pun baik buka thread baru. grin


astrophotography and observing  Tak boleh campur. Teknik dan peralatan berlainan. tongue

Kalau nak buat di tempat sama suggest Lain2 malam lah.


unfortunately kena bagi sedikit requirement for equipment. suggest bare minimum is compact camera dan tahu guna untuk ambil gambar di siang hari dan malam. at least tahu how to turn off the in camera flash grin

tripod optional. kalu ada lagi baik. gorilla pod mencukupi.

Maybe satu sessi untuk beginners. Saya pun mahu ikut. Drift Alignment and star hopping and general tips on image acquisition.

Lepas tu processing. Lepas tu final polishing.

Errr...cuaca tidak begitu memberansangkan nampaknya di seluruh semenanjung. Cuaca KL di Kota Bharu.

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« Reply #51 pada: May 05, 2012, 12:10:09 PM »

I revisited the same M6 & M7 Scorpious Tail photo from Gem Island Trip last year. Kali ni guna balik Deep Sky Stacker, nak cuba lawan Iris.

Ni hasil dan perbandingan.

DSS


Iris


Colors are hard to match.

What do you think?
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« Reply #53 pada: May 06, 2012, 10:26:56 PM »

Buat habis beras saje. Sama saperti lawan Nikon dan Canon.

Very much dependent on the operator skill.

DSS does only Image Calibration, Aligning and Stacking. Very primitive image correction and enhancement.
IRIS does Image Calibration, Aligning and Stacking as well as Image Correction and Enhancement.

Cannot beat Photoshop for Post Process which you have to use for DSS.

For me I am at loss learning IRIS. Very steep learning curve for a computer nerd; can't even get pass IRIS Setup. embarassed
For those interested in IRIS processing sequence see here under Processing.

DSS is GUI and good for beginners as Auto and default settings will produce great images.

From your two pictures I suspect there is a setting not quite right with your DSS if your images are not holding up to post processing. DSS is pretty idiot proof, but to get optimal results you do need to know what to change and when from the default settings.

I tried Color Matching in Photoshop but it fail. So it is more than a question of setting the Black and white points or white balance.

Moral of the story: Stick to one that works for you.

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« Reply #54 pada: May 07, 2012, 09:00:41 PM »

I had time to kill the other day while the Tokey was giving the class about Photoshop Post-Processing 101. I guess I never had any proper training on DSS, just the straightforward method as explained in the tutorial.

Though I had pretty much the almost straightforward personal tuition from the sifu, i guess it shows quite some difference in the final results.

I tried to achieve the same black levels from the DSS result but the end results tends to Go GREEN.

So I guess I'll stick to IRIS, and keep DSS as a 2nd option (maybe can be done as I sleep).

p/s: No pun was intended in the testing of these image processing software...
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