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« pada: October 19, 2005, 12:52:19 PM »

Assalamualaikum.....

Saya sebenarnya minat dlm bidang angkasa nih.. minat saya sejak umur 7 tahun lagi. Sekarang saya berumur 15thn dan sedang menungu result PMR. Binokular dan teleskop saya tak mampu beli kerana saya tiada duit. Lagipun saya masih bersekolah. Saya hanya mampu baca ape yg kamu postkan kat forum ini saya dan tidak dapat rasa ape yg kamu semua rasa sad. Jadi tolong lah saya atau bagi motivasi kepada saya. TQ  huh
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« Reply #1 pada: October 19, 2005, 01:27:50 PM »

Hise dok kat mana? KL ker? Kalau KL senang skit bleh join mana2 stargazing party yang sapa2 anjur. Boleh tengok dan cuba pelbagai paralatan astronomi dan juga belajar dari mereka yang dah mahir. Kalau tak silap Tommy (kemayok) dan group dia selalu buat stargazing party ni, bleh cuba tanya dia. Lagipun sekarang cuaca tak berapa menarik . . . dijangka sampai hujung tahun ni. Nanti tiba cuaca panas sesuai nak wat stargazing dan orion dan the gang pun dah start naik time tu ... Smiley
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« Reply #2 pada: October 19, 2005, 01:28:35 PM »

grin selamat datang! Satu motivasi yang boleh diberi ialah, jangan anggap kita kena beli teleskop atau binokulars untuk belajar perihal bidang angkasa ini. Kita utilize apa yang ada pd diri kita, iaitu deria mata kita untuk sentiasa memerhati keadaan langit sekeliling.

Masa saya muda-muda dulu, di sekolah rendah, mana ada duit masa tu, setakat baca buku kat kedai buku je. Dan lepas tu buat pemerhatian sendiri. Setiap pemerhatian saya tuliskan dalam buku log atau buku catatan. Ini penting sebagai rekod dan ini secara tidak langsung akan menjadikan aktiviti pencerapan anda lebih menarik dan berkembang.

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« Reply #3 pada: October 19, 2005, 03:08:20 PM »

Hi,

Dulu saya kat Sabah selalunya panjat ke atas bumbung untuk belajar mengenal constellation.

Memang society kita selalunya membuat starparty kat tempat yang gelap. Sebab apa? Sebab tempat yang gelap barulah senang nak mengenal pasti buruj-buruj dan juga Deep sky objects yang terang. Memang mudah nak tunjuk constellation kepada orang awam, tapi bukan semua orang dapat belajar mengenal buruj dengan serta merta. kena adanya pengalaman dan serba sedikit pengetahuan tentang observation. Jadi, kita kena membaca buku seperti " Introduction to amateur astronomy".....

Apa yang Shah cakap adalah betul. Kita harus banyak membaca dan membuat observation dengan mata kasar dulu. Sebiji bino sudah cukup untuk belajar astronomi.

Finally, belajar astronomi ataupun apa jua, kita kena bersabar. Slogan saya " bukan cuaca yang menunggu saya, tetapi saya yang menunggunya."

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« Reply #4 pada: October 19, 2005, 05:05:50 PM »

botok... saya duk kat kelantan. Terima kasihla kepada sesiapa yg sudi tolong saya tuh. Boleh tak saya minta korang punya Yahoo Messenger... nak add nih... nanti kalau ade masalah senang sket  wink
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« Reply #5 pada: October 19, 2005, 05:09:53 PM »

saya punya Yahoo id:  kamayok3@yahoo.com

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« Reply #6 pada: October 19, 2005, 07:12:16 PM »

Saya mempunyai satu binokular yg ayah saya punya. Ada tulisan yg tertulis kat binokular tersebut ialah 99990 x 9880  MODEL 750 8m/980000m.. adalah binokular jenis ini boleh tengok bulan atau bintang atau sebagainya?? huh
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« Reply #7 pada: October 22, 2005, 08:25:35 PM »

Hise, hampir semua jenis binocular boleh guna untuk tujuan astronomi, cuma baik ke tak baik tu bergantung kepada jenis binokular tu. Yg heran nya stats binokular yg ayah Hise punya tu cam pelik skit tak berapa nak paham.
Macam yg shah dan kamayok cakap tak perlu apa-apa peralatan untuk kita menikmati astronomi cukup dengan langit yg gelap, cuaca yg baik dan panduan seperti peta bintang atau planisphere (takde panduan nanti tatau apa yg kita lihat dan tatau apa yg hendak dilihat pulak) Macam saya mula2 nak mengenali buruj2 dilangit, kalau takde panduan mmg susah nak kenalpasti susun-atur bintang2 yg membentuk buruj. Jadi kalau ada planisphere ni senang sikit . . . senang banyak! Tongue
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« Reply #8 pada: October 23, 2005, 11:41:09 AM »

Hise,

Bino tu beli dari mana? Petaling Street? Yang saya tau kalau bino tu stated magnification X aperture yang bukan bukan, kemungkinan besar bino tu dari China ataupun Russia. You tahulah, yang murah murah tu....Smiley

Sebab bino yang berkualiti sederhana ataupun tinggi, ia akan menyatakan 7x50,8x42,20x100 dan lain-lain lagi.

Sebelum memilih bino yang sesuai untuk awak, awak mestilah faham What is your purpose, how wide or narrow field and the magnification of a bino do you need?

If you like a wider field of view that can see a lot of stars across the field of view, then choose 7x50.....etc bino.

If you like narrow field of view and can magnify the objects closer, then choose 10x50,20x100.....etc bino.

If you like lightweight bino that can hold in on your hand for the whole night long, the choose 7x50,8x42....etc bino

If you prefer a heavyweight bino that need to install on the tripod, then  choose 20x100...etc bino.

What other things that you need to understand is for an example when choosing a right bino,

1. What is the first number in the binocular title?
The first number in a binocular name indicates the magnification power – for example, the 7x42 Montana has a 7x magnification. Power represents how many times closer an object appears when viewed through the binocular. For example, a 10x magnification means an object appears ten times closer than when viewed by the unaided eye. Zoom binoculars provide a variety of magnifications (7x - 10x for example) to the user, allowing the option for lower and higher-powered viewing in a standard package.

2. What is the second number in the binocular title?
The second number in the binocular title refers to the size of the objective, or front, lens of a binocular in millimeters. A larger objective lens gathers more light and will produce a crisper, brighter image.

3. What are coatings? What are the different types?
Like telescopes, binocular lenses are coated with invisible coverings that work to improve the amount of light transmitted from the front lens to the eyepiece. Coatings are necessary because incoming light is reflected and lost as it passes through a binocular’s lenses, sometimes up to 50 percent. While high quality lenses greatly reduce the level of light loss, binoculars need additional chemical coatings to reach a desirable level of visual clarity. There are four coating levels with fully multi-coated being the highest classification and quality.

    * Coated optics (C) – one or more glass surfaces are coated.
    * Fully Coated (FC) – All air-to-glass surfaces within the binocular are coated.
    * Multi-Coated (MC) – have one or more surfaces of one of more lenses coated with multiple films. Some surfaces could have a single         coat or some no coating at all.
    * Fully Multi-Coated (FMC) – have multiple coating films on all air-to-glass surfaces.

4.  Why do binoculars have prisms? What are the differences between a porro and roof prism?
Binocular prism glass works inside the binocular to flip the image upright for viewing. The two most common prism designs are porro and roof prisms. Porro prisms work in a simple zig-zag fashion to flip the image and account for the classic binocular shape. Conversely, roof prisms flip the image in a straight line, making the objective lens and eyepiece line up in a more compact design. Two varieties of prism glass are also available, BK-7 and BAK-4. BAK-4 is the higher quality and denser glass that produces brighter and sharper images.

Regards,

Tommy
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« Reply #9 pada: January 02, 2006, 11:22:46 PM »

Hise,
Cuba contact Bhgn Falak Jab. Mufti Kelantan (Ust Aziz). Biasanya diorg ada maklumat ttg aktiviti falak di Kelantan. Kursus2 pun ada. Free pulok tu.. bereh deee..
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« Reply #10 pada: January 03, 2006, 12:30:25 AM »

Terima kasih la semua yer kerana tolong bagi maklumat for me.
Shah, can i know what book do you read about universe??

Zarqali, engkau duk kelantan gak ke??
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« Reply #11 pada: January 03, 2006, 10:16:18 AM »

Terima kasih la semua yer kerana tolong bagi maklumat for me.
Shah, can i know what book do you read about universe??

Zarqali, engkau duk kelantan gak ke??

Saya sekarang ni subscribe ke majalah Sky & Telescope, dulu ada jugak subscribe majalah Astronomy, tapi disebabkan harga makin mahal, tak larat nak beli 2 majlah, so beli satu je...  tongue

Masa dulu rajin jugak beli buku, tapi sekarang banyak refer ke internet. Carta bintang, ada beli Sky Atlas 2000.0 , dan juga Uranometria 2000. Cadangnye ada nak beli jugak Millennium Star Atlas, sebagai koleksi tapi fulus tada..so tangguh dulu je ler.. hehe

Bila lama bergelumang dlm hobi ni, buku-buku yang terkemudian ni, banyak kpd bbrp fokus area, contoh saya beli buku Dobsonian Telescope (pasal berangan nak buat dob ), dan baru-baru ni Video Astronomy .

begitulah ceritanya...  grin
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« Reply #12 pada: January 03, 2006, 01:17:51 PM »

Hise,
Ambo bolih kecek la.. sikit pasal ambo kejo Kelate dulu. Lo ni dok di Perokk.. Utk makluman lanjut pasal astronomi ni cubo la http://curios.astro.cornell.edu/ banyak gak maklumat bagus utk beginner. Kalau buku bhs Melayu buku Baharuddin Zainal( KUSZA ), Prof. Mohd Ilyas (USM),kitab2 lama tok guru Patani dulu byk ttg ilmu falak selain buku2 moden.

p/s : Lamo tok make nasi belauk... dekat pasor Siti Khatijoh..
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« Reply #13 pada: January 03, 2006, 03:15:27 PM »

Zarqali,

Thanks for that url but that url cannot open liao.

Shah,

so hard la to find that book here. huh
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« Reply #14 pada: January 03, 2006, 04:18:17 PM »

Try kinokuniya, KLCC!

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