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Title: Telrad
Post by: rizal on September 28, 2005, 07:12:18 AM
Assallamualaikum!
Ada sesiapa pernah dengar pasal Telrad?
Saya kat Singapore sekarang ni 2nd time in 17 years and sampai jek kat sini saya dah shoot email to www.astrobargains.com (http://www.astrobargains.com) bertanyakan harga Telrad :)
Dah confirm SG89 insyaallah akan beli Khamis ni.

Banyak good review yang saya baca tentang Telrad antaranya :-
http://www.backyard-astro.com/equipment/accessories/telrad/telrad.html

Agak besar saiznya untuk ETX saya tapi rasanya mempercepatkan saya belajar starhopping :)
(http://www.weasner.com/etx/observations/images/buckley-etxtelrad1.jpg)

Kalau sesiapa berminat nak kirim insyaallah.
Tapi cash tak banyak saya boleh belikan 1 jek first come first serve :)


Title: Re: Telrad
Post by: kamayok3 on September 28, 2005, 09:02:19 AM
in my opinion, rigel system finder is more suitable for ETX OTA. I am using it nowadays.

(http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/6/imgp1669c6kv.th.jpg) (http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imgp1669c6kv.jpg)

Telrad is more suitable for reflector, refractor and Dob....cassegrain as well. :wink:

Tapi, before you know how to use telrad or rigel finder, you kena tahu how to find DSO....coz dalam telrad, it will only gives you 1x of magnification. It doesn't help much in finding faint DSO. For an example,M104(Sombrero Galaxy). It is easy for those who knows where the DSO located in the sky. You know lar..Sometimes Autostar also going crazy one.... :mrgreen: Lot of people doesn't know this problem ohhh..... :wink:

My RM1.00 opinions only.

Tommy


Title: Re: Telrad
Post by: shahgazer on September 28, 2005, 09:38:05 AM
Bro Rizal,

Saya setuju dengan Tommy, size etx tu kecik sikit untuk letak telrad. Kalau ada rigel (jenis menegak) much more suitable.

BTW, kat sana ada jual Toucam Pro II tak?  :evil:

-Shah-


Title: Re: Telrad
Post by: perseid on September 28, 2005, 12:50:12 PM
Ini saya punya 50sen opinion (discount price compare to Tommy)..he he
Rigel finder atau kadang-kadang dipanggil zero mag finder lebih sesuai dan senang digunakan. Telrad agak besar. Kalau guna kat ETX, tak cantik langsung. Yang advantage, telrad lebih senang nak guna. Bulleye projection (bulatan yang nampak overlap di langit) lebih cantik dan mempunyai luas tertentu. Tak silap, setengah darjah bagi bulatan dalam sekali, satu darjah bagi bulatan tengah dan dua darjah di bulatan terluar sekali. Buat guna untuk star hoping dan panduan dengan star chart.
Both rigel finder dan telrad saya ada. Yang telrad ada yang lama, yang saya tak guna lagi. Kalau nak, saya boleh tawar dengan harga RM60 termasuk kos hantaran.


Title: Re: Telrad
Post by: kamayok3 on September 28, 2005, 12:54:13 PM
Wahhh......discounted my opinions into 1/2 price??? hahaah :mrgreen:

Betul cakap CK ni....Rigel is the best...I like the pulsing guide in the rigel. can set it fast or slow pulse. Easy to see in the dark...

Oklar.....now saya naik harga to RM1.50 opinions.  :evil:

Tommy


Title: Re: Telrad
Post by: perseid on September 28, 2005, 12:55:36 PM
Shah,
Tengak cari toucam? Boleh dapat dari Grandeye. Harga sekarang lebih murah berbanding tahun lepas. Tapi yang tak syok, grandeye tak terima kad kredit dan owner agak sombong. Pasal adapter dengan IR blocking filter, saya boleh supply. Saya anggarkan kamera + adapter + IR blocking filter lebih kurang RM550 boleh dapat.

Regards,
CK


Title: Re: Telrad
Post by: kamayok3 on September 28, 2005, 01:01:02 PM
I am also trying to look for one...but the price is still high.....No that much of budget now....Thinking of getting a second hand one...

Tommy


Title: Re: Telrad
Post by: rizal on September 28, 2005, 01:16:49 PM
Timakasih kamayok, perseid dan shahgazer for your valuable 50sen, rm1.00 dan rm1.50  :-D
Memang arguable tapi saya dah baca dah and make promise with that guy so I will proceed with it lah.
Memang sedar its very bulky tapi as a lame astronomer I think its OK given that it is much easier to use.
Lagi pun saya at the same time nak beli finderscope jugak.
perseid,
Can recommend me any good finderscope? 6x30 ke anything that can fit the ETX and performing good.


Eh dah dapat tak harga Skywatcher Pro Series very tempting la rather than buying the LXD75.


Title: Re: Telrad
Post by: rizal on September 28, 2005, 01:19:21 PM
shahgazer,
Toucam Pro tak sure la.. nak jalan kat Funan tu takut tak sempat la pulak.
2 hari training friday morning dah nak kena balik.


Title: Re: Telrad
Post by: kamayok3 on September 28, 2005, 01:53:16 PM
wow....ada orang nak beli LXD75 wow...... bagus lah

Saya boleh tengok macam mana dengan quality produk china ni... :mrgreen: Adakah dia sama dengan quality LXD55 dulu. Teruklah, kena modified screw dalam untuk performance yang baik. Saya dengar LXD75 juga kena tukar some screws dalam baru dapat performance yang baik. Good luck in ur purchase loh....

This is my RM2.00 opinions.

Tommy


Title: Re: Telrad
Post by: shahgazer on September 28, 2005, 02:35:44 PM
Shah,
Tengak cari toucam? Boleh dapat dari Grandeye. Harga sekarang lebih murah berbanding tahun lepas. Tapi yang tak syok, grandeye tak terima kad kredit dan owner agak sombong. Pasal adapter dengan IR blocking filter, saya boleh supply. Saya anggarkan kamera + adapter + IR blocking filter lebih kurang RM550 boleh dapat.

Regards,
CK

Tengah check harga dulu...  belum ada decision lagi, tapi memang saya ingatkan nak beli di grandeye, tapi problem paling besar ialah payment tak accept cc . tu yang leceh...   :oops:


Title: Re: Telrad
Post by: kamayok3 on September 28, 2005, 03:00:08 PM
buat TT la.....Says pernah bayar dia dengan TT...

Tommy


Title: Re: Telrad
Post by: perseid on September 28, 2005, 03:06:00 PM
Kalau nak 6x30mm finder dengan base, harganya RM190. Rasanya boleh fit etx.

Kebanyakkan price list untuk sky watcher product ada kat saya. Mungkin minggu depan, nak but satu tempahan.
Harga dibawah ialah anggaran, sebab tak tahu kos pengangkutan. Harap tak lebih dari harga ini.
HEQ5 Mount (w/steel tripod)                                   RM4000
HEQ5 Pro GOTO Mount                                           RM6000
MAK 150 OTA Pro (Champagne color)                       RM4000
(w/ 9x50 finderscope, 1.25" diagonal mirror,
2 pc of 1.25" LET eyepiece

D127/F1500 Maksutov(MAKC127EQ3)                              RM4000
w/EQ3 Mount/Al tripod, 9x50mm finder,
1.25" diagonal mirror
2pcs of 1.25" PL eyepiece

Ada lagi banyak product skywatchers. Boleh jenguk kat website ini untuk full product list.
http://www.oneilphoto.on.ca/sw2.htm

CK


Title: Re: Telrad
Post by: kamayok3 on September 28, 2005, 03:22:25 PM
wow...the price not bad wow! Nowm I am thinking of changing my wood tripod to Aluminium/steel tripod.

Regards,
Tommy


Title: Re: Telrad
Post by: kamayok3 on September 28, 2005, 03:26:29 PM
Actually i like this concept. If someone here can build this up.

http://www.weasner.com/etx/reviews/2005/flipfinder.html

I think you can buy it from oversea seller....

Tommy


Title: Re: Telrad
Post by: rizal on September 28, 2005, 09:33:22 PM
tommy,
LXD75 tu  berangan jek dulu tak sure lagi budget takdak lagi sekarang punya etx105 pun not much time spent lagi.
Next month nak tambah 1 more baby so tight budget :)

perseid,
Boleh pakai the current base tak on the ETX105? Just squeeze in the current bracket.

shah,
You punya finderscope apa size?


Title: Re: Telrad
Post by: shahgazer on September 28, 2005, 11:10:18 PM
shah,
You punya finderscope apa size?

Yang pada LX90 tu standard 8 x 50.

Untuk Dobsonian, guna Telrad!  :-D


Title: Re: Telrad
Post by: kamayok3 on September 28, 2005, 11:22:26 PM
Ohhh....IC!!! Salah thinking lagi.... :mrgreen:

jadi nak beli telrad lah ni.....nak macam mana install kat ETX kecil tu? lekat kat tepi? Kat tengah tengah tube tu? kalau macam tu, nanti u nak install dew shield pun susah. Problem lah tu.

Tommy


Title: Re: Telrad
Post by: rizal on September 28, 2005, 11:29:24 PM
Tommy,
Pls refer the first message ada gambar.
I know its bulky. No worries about the look when its placed on the ETX.

p/s You know how weird Renault Kangoo is to most of people .. hehe but I love it!  :wink:


Title: Re: Telrad
Post by: kamayok3 on September 29, 2005, 09:37:32 AM
Rizal,

I know you got no worries when its placed one the ETX tube. But do you ever think of tube balancing matter? Once you install the bulky telrad on to the tube, your tube balancing will run off. Besides that, your autostar pointing accuracy will not be always accurate eventhough you already done the easy or two stars alignment.

Make sure the additional weight doesn't spoilt the nylon gear in DEC and RA section.

Do not know whether you accept my thought or not. But this is my valuable RM5.00 opinions.

Regards,

Tommy